Post by MangoTikiWiki on Jan 5, 2010 0:06:22 GMT -5
*price increase from $42 to $48 January, 2012*
Josefina's new baking set includes the retired adobe oven set as well as elements of her cocina supplies. The adobe oven is plastic, and feels plastic when you hold it, its fairly lightweight. I wasn't terribly impressed by the make of the oven, its fairly simple and the fake fire feels cheezy, but it has great play value. The wooden door that comes with the oven just sits in front of the oven's opening. It also comes with a wooden spatula to take the bread in and out of the oven which is made of a nice glazed wood and two rolls of bread- one white and "unbaked" and one brown and "baked". These rolls add a lot of play value to the set.
New to the set is a woven yellow and red tablecloth/runner. Its very cute and well made- thick. It also contains a small woven basket which can hold either the two plastic red chiles or the bundle of maize (corn) that the set comes with. It also has a set of "stones" (made of out plastic) called a mano y metate which are used to grind corn and grains. Adds another element of play value to the set. It also includes a small piece of soft leather (fake) and I'm honestly not sure what its for- I use it to put the bread on it when it comes out of the oven.
Overall its a very cute set with a lot of play value. Especially since the cocina set was retired long ago, I'm glad they brought back elements of it in this set. For the price of it, you get a lot of things. I do wish the oven didn't feel so fake and plastic, but I'm not sure what really could have been done to change that. Otherwise, I give the set an A.
Post by sheltiesweetie2007 on Jan 5, 2010 22:07:07 GMT -5
The mano and metate in the current set are different than the ones that were included in the Cocina Set. The current ones definitely seem plastic, versus my old set that felt heavier and more like stone. The reason I purchased this set was for the oven - which I missed the first time around and don't think I have the skill to make it myself. The other things that come with the set I could probably live without.
AmericanDreams wrote up a pretty comprehensive review. I too was confused by the leather cloth. I am using it as a liner for the basket. This set does have good play value but agree that the oven itself looks kind of cheesy. I'm not impressed by the oven (would have preferred more of a clay type feel to it instead of smooth plastic) but the other pieces to this set are very well done. I especially like the woven runner and basket. My DD and DS thought the set was "cool" so I think kids may have a different opinion on it than adult collectors. It does work well with Josefina and does remind me of the ovens I saw as a child going to the pueblos in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
Last Edit: Mar 26, 2010 17:16:58 GMT -5 by emchhardy
My daughter's dolls (in storage): Kanani, Natalie (#55), and Rebecca My dolls: Kit and Addy (PM)
I actually have to disagree with Candace on this one - there are quite a few differences between the two sets, so I wouldn't necessarily buy the Oven and Food set as a direct replacement for the earlier set.
First of all, this oven is a different color than the other set's oven. I actually prefer the color of this one, which has a more realistic pinky-clay tone compared to the more yellowish color of the original. However, it is lacking in the details of the original; the "smoke" trails are very clearly airbrushed (and they come across as purple because of the pink of the oven), and the fire inside is not painted to resemble embers like the original oven.
However, the paddle does fit in both of them without tilting it sideways.
The unbaked loaves of bread are basically the same in both sets, although my earlier set has more rubbery loaves, whereas this one is harder plastic. The baked loaves are colored differently - Original bun on left, Oven and Food bun on right
As you can see, the coloring on the original is more yellow (mine actually has some damage to the top so please disregard green streaks ) and the newer one is actually better and looks tastier.
Finally the corn. Also different - the original corn has larger, more irregular kernels (I only have this sole survivor which came in a lot) and a shinier finish, and it also appears to have had a real husk stem at some point. The newer corn has plastic stems and a different kernel pattern.
I actually think this set has several strengths and it is definitely fun to play with. Even though the mano/metate are plastic now they still look realistic (and have more weight than I was expecting), the fresh chiles are a nice contrast from her dried paper chiles, and you have a chance to get the oven again. Basically, if you don't have the original this one is a fine substitute but just know that they aren't identical.